do you feel that the refs and league in the nhl arent doing their part ?

Question

first u have the chara hit and the crosby hit , and their is no supension or anything

than u have refs where they dont like certain teams so they will be crooked in it and not call the game fair ............and the league isnt doing anything to these crooked refs , what is going on here ??

Answer 1

a) Refs don't deal with suspensions, the NHL VPs do.



b) They did do their job with Chara. They called the interference penalty, and that's what the hit was, just an interference (hitting a guy who no longer had the puck nor was chasing directly after it) that, because of where they were on the ice, ended a lot worse than it normally would, anywhere else on the ice.



c) The Crosby hit was a collision, 2 guys who didn't see each other bumping into each other on the ice, and while the result was unfortunate, there was no penalty for the refs to call, and therefore nothing to suspend.



d) As for crooked refs, it's the age-old excuse. However, the bad calls go both ways, and if you keep track over the course of a season, they tend to average out (for instance, the Caps getting hosed in Dallas on a waived off goal for no reason, and then winning on a similar call against Tampa). You notice it more when it hurts your team, but the fact is, refs are human, and as such miss calls and make mistakes (and don't give me the "it's obviously 'this' in slow motion" because the refs don't get that advantage, so the only relevant replays are the full speed ones)



edit: Quizzard- that "the player should be suspended until the injured player returns" argument sounds good in theory, but wouldn't work for the following reasons:



1) Jamie Heward. Took a hard check from Ovechkin. Heward was in his 40s, Ovechkin was in his first or second season. Heward was injured on the play, and decided to retire. As a result, had the ref called a penalty, Ovechkin's career would've been over, simply because Heward decided that enough was enough



2) Star player hits a minor league call-up. Call-up is actually fine to play again, but his team's coach sees star player's team in the near future, or it's a playoff battle between the two and this is a chance to keep star player out, giving the team with minor league player an advantage, since they aren't losing much by having a call-up sit out. And most coaches would certainly be willing to take advantage of this gamesmanship opportunity.



3) What if they player who committed the hit is young, it was a dirty hit, and it ends the other guy's career? Should the hitter REALLY lose a chance at a career because of one mistake? One bad choice? Yeah, it's unfair to the player who was hit, but that's how life works, it's unfortunate, and, as Todd Bertuzzi has proved, sometimes players do learn from their mistakes, and even if it was a huge mistake, people deserve a second chance.

Answer 2

Should the league do more about headshots and other illegal plays? Absolutely. It's a simple rule in my opinion: if a play is illegal, be it a headshot, interference, high sticking, whatever, and the player is injured, the player who committed the infraction should be suspended until the injured player can return to play.



However, that is a league level/GM level, maybe owner level call. The refs have to deal with what the reules as handed down to them.



On the subject of bad calls, you have to realize what a tough job this is. The refs are out there with 12 fast, big players, and they cannot possible watch every move for every second. We have the benefit of instant replays , slow motion, and isolation cameras that can go back on every suspect play and say 'that was an obvious penalty, why didn't the referee see that?" The truth is that they didn't see it because they happened to be looking the other way, at some OTHER potential troublespot. Or they just blinked at the wrong time.



The NHL has without a doubt the best officiating crews in the world. That's why many NHL refs end up officiating at Olympic and other events. They arr the best (as a group). I do see favoritism, but I don't think it's homers or 'crooked; refs, I think it may be a tendency to give the lesser team a break. I see that a lot in recent Canucks games, where they have been hit far harder on penalties than the opponent.



Overall, I think the referees in the NHL do a fine job with what they've got to deal with.

Answer 3

Sounds like someone is wearing their "homer" glasses while watching games. Yes the NHL needs to do a better job cleaning up head shots but this isnt the ballet or figure skating....these are big strong men doing battle with purpose and injuries are going to happen. While we are at it lets see if the NFL can do away with tackling so players would stop getting those serious injuries (concussions are a much bigger issue in the NFL). Flag football anyone? I play in a no check league (over 50 leagues tend to be that way..hate it) but we still hit and yes guys do get dinged. The NHL has gone too far in sissifying the league as is. Proof of that is in some of these silly penalties we see where a guy bumps into another guy and gets penalty. Obviously when your (or my) team is playing you always see calls you want but the refs do a good job (too good on some nights) for the most part. Refs dont play favorites, that is fans who have screwed up "conspiracy" theories. Yes they make mistakes, miss an occasional call or believe it or not they are human and can get annoyed on occasion but suggesting they are crooked or hateful is naive at best. The NHL by and large is doing a very good job putting a good product on the ice and that includes refs....they do need to correct the painfully pathetic inconsistent enforcement on illegal and dangerous hits but if that is the biggest b*tch anybody can come up with it seems to me the game is pretty good as is (other than the head shots).

Answer 4

The age old complain. I am the last person that should stick up for the refs as I'm still upset about the sixth skater that the Penguins had in game 3 of the 2009 Stanley Cup finals. But in reality, that's life. There is a thing called human error. we feel the refs should be paid to be perfect. But no one is perfect in this world. Everyone makes mistakes. And any time you put you rely on any human, you take the chance of being let down. The refs and the league get it right 99.9% of the time. And that's all anyone could ever ask for. Wings fans will complain about 2009, Leafs fans will complain about 1993, and Sabres fans will complain about 1999. Oh well.

Answer 5

nicely I choose refs might in simple terms admit while they make a mistake. In any league in simple terms have the refs admit they twisted up. constructive that apology would not get you something, even with the shown fact that it is extra desirable then not something. actually i individually choose that the league might do something while they make errors against a similar team some situations in couple of minutes. i'm not probable constructive what could be performed however, in simple terms get annoyed while a team is on the undesirable end and in simple terms get advised oh sorry we screwed up your season/sequence.

Answer 6

Where's Frank Udvari when we need him.



In the old days we didn't need names or numbers on the referees and linesmen. We didn't even notice them. They went about their job and created an atmosphere where the game was most important.

Today the referees and linesmen seem to care more about style than substance. Whether it's Fraser's hair or McGeough histrionics when a goal is scored or Walkom's holier than thou approach to the game the officials have now become a too large part of the game.



Wouldn't it be nice to go to a game and after the game say the officials were conspicuous in their absence.

Answer 7

Every fan believes their team is being unfairly treated. It is a very difficult job. They are the best refs in the world. Do you think if we fired all the current refs and hired new ones it would be any better? The NBA, NFL, baseball all make the same complaints.