Rule about hand-pass and kicking puck into goal?

Question

In NHL hockey, if a player hits the puck out of the air with his hand and it bounces of the opposing goalie and into the net, is this a goal? Isn't the hand-pass waved off as soon as an opposing player touches the puck?

If a player kicks the puck in front of the goal and it bounces off the goalie's skate and into the net, is this a goal? It is a distinct kicking motion but it did not direct the puck into the net; it directed it across the crease and it bounced off the goalie into the net. How should the ref rule on this one?

Thanks for your opinion.

Answer 1

The ruling in both cases would be no goal. A couple years ago in the playoffs this happened to the islanders (yes they made them) and the lightening. A TB player kicked it from behind the net in an attempt to pass it in front. It hit of DiPietro and went in the net. The ref ruled it no goal.



The same is with the hand pass. Unless it hits an opponents stick and they have possession. This is where it gets fuzzy and i diffidently see the confusion. If it just bounces off the goalie it is no goal.. However if he were to play it and try to pass it to a defensemen and for whatever reason it went in the net, that would be a goal.

Answer 2

That raises a good question though, say a player was behind the net and kicked the puck to the front of the net and the goalie's stick directed it in....It's a kicking motion, but with help from the goalie....Like a bank kick shot...





Both cases it would be no goal. There are many situations that you can think of where they can be debatable but you'll have to wait to see it in a game to see what they really call.

Answer 3

i saw this a couple of months ago and the ruling made me laugh so here goes, if the player bats the puck with his hand and the goalie cannot control the puck thus going into the net, it is NO GOAL even if he tried to control but could not.(i think i hear you laughing) i assume the kicking rule is the same the goalie is not considered a player so him touching the puck is not the same as a player touching the puck, sort of like if a defending player puts his hand on the puck in the crease, its a penalty shot, but a goalie can....

Answer 4

I believe that this may be one of the most difficult calls that the on ice and Toronto officials have to make during a game. I've seen goals being disallowed for a simple deflection off of a player's skate as well as goals being allowed that are clearly kicked in by the skate. The later should never be allowed as a good goal and the former should always be allowed but officials are human and they make mistakes.

Answer 5

In both cases the goal should be waved off. Hand passes are legal in your own end of the ice, outside your own blue line you can't hand pass.